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Double Déjà Vu

By Flesh


    Déjà Vu is a French term, which simply means already seen. The Greek term promnesia: is the feeling you've witnessed or experienced a situation previously. There's a lot of research to indicate that this has been happening to a great deal people for a very long time. I can say that if that's all you've experienced was Déjà Vu, and never a 'Double Déjà Vu', you'd have missed out on the whole experience, cheated in many ways — like eating chocolate and not being able to taste it, yet you still gain the weight.

    Double Déjà Vu, or DDV, is a new term that I made up to describe the full effects of Déjà Vu from the past, present and future as a whole. I discovered Double Déjà Vu during Lucid Dreaming, when I recalled a particular Déjà Vu episode in a Lucid Dream, and replayed the entire episode over and over until I resolved it. Resolving it is key to the experience, otherwise you may keep experiencing Re-Déjà Vu over, and over again, which can get quite madding — in fact the first time it happened to me, that's exactly what happened, and why this subject was so important to me to resolve it.

    When discussing the topic of recurring dreams with people,  I often times will ask them more detailed questions about their dreams, and what I invariably discover is that these are not regular dreams to start off with. Most people have no knowledge about lucid dreams, and are quite surprised to find out, after explaining it to them, that they are actually in a semi-conscience state, and can interact with their own dream. When I ask them if this event has any ties with a Déjà Vu — at times, and after further consideration, they do seem resolved to the possibility that in did. In light of the aforementioned,  I can say will the utmost of certainty, that the two are related more than main stream science would have us believe — and that  main stream science shows no relationship whatsoever.

    Why are Double Déjà Vu experiences not discussed in main stream dream research? Most researchers believe that the two have no connection whatsoever and that your mind can create what ever fantasy you want it too. Knowing this why would I continue to give this anymore thought? I don't believe them. I think the two are in fact one and the same and I'll have to take you into one of my Double Déjà Vu experiences so I can describe one in great detail, examine the stages and define some more terms I've made up to describe them.

    First a little history about me that my have a lot to do with what I am experiencing. I was in the Air Force, in preparation of the up coming Gulf War in 1991 the Military was ordered to get a lot of Vaccinations. The stories got around real fast how people were dying from the vaccinations or getting real sick. In November of 1990 I was given a lot of vaccinations, there were armed guards and threats of Court Marshall if I didn't get the shots, so I didn't think twice about it and got the shots, about 12 of them, like running the gauntlet, like cattle we walked in line one after another, the gun keep pumping us full of these vile chemicals; at the end of the line, people were sitting down rather fast, my head started spinning, they said I was hyperventilating but I could hardly breath, I don't remember much after that. I know some people died that day, it seems like they tried not to talk about it. From that point on my life was changed, I couldn't tell you how, it just was. I felt different, I slept different, thought different, I just was different. I started to have real problems, I didn't know how to deal with them. I was eventually retired in 1997 for medical reasons due to this and other things that happened to me up to that point. In 1999 I had a few sleep studies done, they came to the conclusion that I had a very rare sleeping disorder; they called it sleep misperception. One of the symptoms was that when I started a REM cycle my body would go into involuntary muscle movement and it would wake me up or bring me out of REM or prevent me from going into REM sleep. It was this problem with my REM sleep that may have triggered all these visions I was getting; but had nothing to do with the Déjà Vu, since I'd been having them as long as I can remember, but never Double Deja Vu. As a result of lack of REM or Dreams, my brain is always trying to catch up on dreaming and since REM sleep is erratic, lucid dreams seem to come natural. One more thing to note: I have a very load ringing in my ears, so when I'm coming out of a lucid dream or start to wake, the ringing floods my brain. You will have to have a way to tell when your awake and when you are dreaming, the ringing works well for me. To conclude; the two things that plagued me from my Military Duty and the Gulf War, are aiding me in the Lucid Dreams and may have made Double Deja Vu possible.

    When I was about 12 years old I lived in Tempe Arizona with at my Uncles house, with my Dad and Sister. One day I was in front of the house playing Frisbee with my sister, when out of the blue I had a Déjà Vu, I could see myself throwing the Frisbee, running after, talking to my sister, knowing what she was going to say, this wasn't my first Déjà Vu, and I told my sister about it. Now years latter when I'm in my 30's and overseas in Kuwait during Operation Desert Storm and Vigilant Warrior in 1994, I started having these recurring dreams where I was playing Frisbee with my sister, only this time there was no talking and my thoughts were on the surrounding area; after weeks of this, I was tired of it, I started dreading going to sleep, I talked to others there and besides the fact no one was really sleeping all that good, no one else was having this problem. I talked to our Doctor, who gave me something to help me sleep, which didn't help at all. Then I thought about something someone said years earlier about dreams haunting you till you figure out why; like there is a hidden clue in there and if you discovered it, then the dreams would stop haunting you. So next time I had the dream I started looking for clues, there were only my sister and I around, I went back before my sister came outside with the Frisbee, I was sitting on the porch, I looked across the street a few houses down, and I saw a neighbor putting something in the back of his truck, it looked like a rolled up carpet, he went back in the house, came out a little while latter and drove off, then my sister came out with the Frisbee. At this point I had a clue, but not sure what to do with it, I keep having the dream over and over again; till one day on a weekend when I didn't have to work, which was very rare, I got to sleep in, only to wake in a semi-conscience state, I had a very strange feeling, like I was floating, I was in a field, I call this the take off point, I don't ever remember seeing this field before, it had grass, trees and rocks, yet I couldn't see anything else, so I started to jump up and down, I noticed I could jump very high, then I noticed that I could put my arms out and flap like a bird and actually fly, it was an out of body experience that took me by surprise. It took a little getting use to; I call this place the Lucid Play Ground or LPG, it has many places inside of it, like the take off and set down point. After flying around a little I noticed that if I flew high enough I could see other places, so I decided to try to fly to them, then I could see other people flying, so I tried to fly towards them, but they would just stay far enough away that I couldn't catch them. I woke up a few times and not wanting to get up, I tried to get back to that dream, and I did. This time I came to a place that looked like a landing field, I call this the set down point. When I landed I could see other people there, although they were not there before I landed, I call them the gathering. Every time I tried to approach anyone they would stay just out of reach, soon I tried to sneak up on them, same thing, just couldn't get any closer, then I started trying to make out who they were, I don't remember ever seeing any of them before, then I keep seeing this one women and noticed she was looking at me, she was about 10 or 20 years older than me, and I didn't recognize her at all. I woke up again, this time there was no getting around it, I had to go to the bathroom and no mater how much I tried I could never get back to that dream that day.

    The next day when it was time to go to bed, I tried so hard to get back to that dream and nothing, in fact it was weeks latter, I woke up to the sound of an M-16, a guard chased a King Cobra under our Mobil home in the middle of the night, I was on day shift for this week since there was no flying. I was wide awake but I knew I had to get back to sleep, so I just laid there, then it happened, I was at the take off point, I knew exactly where I was going and went there, after landing in the set down point I begin looking for her, there she was looking at me again, but I still couldn't get close to her, I started to run after her and she turned and ran away from me, then she turned around and she was younger, maybe in her twenties, this time I recognized her, she use to live across the street from me in Tempe; then a flood of emotions came at me like a tide in the ocean; I felt like I was fully awake and standing on that street again, but this time my sister wasn't there, I could hear a women yelling and remembered the neighbors fighting, then everything got cold and dark, I could see a cloud forming over their house, I saw people flying around the clouds, then I saw her; her husband was carrying her out of the house and put her in the back of his truck, as he drove off she flew out of the back of the truck and followed the others into the cloud. My sister came out at that moment with the Frisbee; I remembered thinking I should tell here about it, but I thought it was a day dream and dismissed it. Just before the Déjà Vu was about to happen, a feeling came over me to stop it, its this point I call the Re-Deja Vu; the point where it is about to happen again, I know that if I didn't stop it and resolve this it would only keep happening.

    Back to reality when I'm fully awake; I remembered my sister told me about few weeks after this Deja Vu, that they found her body in the desert, her face was half eaten by animals. The cops finally put him in prison for killing his wife. I thought this was the end of it; boy was I wrong, nothing was resolved, a year passed and I was stationed in Korea, still having these nightmares. I was now seeking help through a psychologist. I though I was losing my mind, I didn't want to talk to anyone about this not even the psychologist; in fear I'd be kicked out of the Air Force.

    One day I woke up in my small room I lived in while in Korea, I couldn't hear anything, it was so quite, I couldn't even hear the ringing in my ears; I looked around and the room looked like my bedroom when I was 5 and living in Ontario California, I closed my eyes and I could see myself much older sitting in front of a house looking across the street listening to the neighbors fight. I felt like I should go over there, I knew both of them, I don't know what I'd say, but I should go over there. She was sitting next to me, much older, I didn't know who she was till now, it was the women across the street, only she was much older, maybe 30 years old, now I remembered this dream, it was the day I played Frisbee with my sister in the front yard years later, Double Deja Vu, that's all I can call it; I have now gone back to the moment that I first had the dream, or thought, maybe it was a premonition about what was going to happen that lead up to the Déjà Vu itself.

    Now the hard part, resolving it. I can not change the past, as much as I wish I could have, as much as I wish I just walked across the street and knocked on the door and said anything at all, I didn't and that will never change. The part that bugs me is I know the Deja Vu was real, I don't know about all these nightmares; but thinking back I do remembered having this dream as a child, so that part was real also; so the Double Deja Vu is as real as the Deja Vu was. Do I feel responsible for her death? Yes; I could have done something, but decided to play Frisbee instead, and when the Deja Vu happened it was too late; it was a trigger point to the event that happened. Subconsciously I have buried this in my memory and didn't want to deal with it. I didn't want to tell anyone about it either, so I was holding it in like a dark deep secret that I was ashamed of.

    Now the part that bothers me the most was, how did she get in my dreams years before I met her? The answer most be that in the Lucid Play Ground, time doesn't exist, the past, future and present are all the same time, the age people appear to be is just a reflection of the age they are feeling at that moment in time and as such people can use the LPG to contact people in the past so that when an event happens in the future they can better deal with it, but like so many things our brain never fully understands what has happened til its too late. We are taught to ignore our dreams and this is just wrong, if I had paid more attention to mine things would be much different for me now. I have no idea how many times this has happened and I just ignored it, or forgot about it before I awoke. Since she never lived to be 30, I can conclude that there are alternative time lines, one in which I did knock on the door and she lived; so this brought up another thought, is why did the Déjà Vu happen only after the event had past, as in this case, it would make more sense to happen before the event when I could have done something about it; but maybe at the last moment she believed that he could have killed both of us and she waited to trigger it later to protect me; at least this scenario make me feel better.

    So did the Deja Vu really happen the way that I remembered it? I have had many more over the years, some with Double Déjà Vu's others without. All of them seem so simplistic on the outside, events like playing Frisbee, talking to a friend, doing something seeming insignificant.

    I learned to experiment with Lucid Dreaming and Déjà Vu and have found that I can recall most of my Déjà Vu experiences to some point; even play the re-Deja Vu over and over again, but finding the Double Déjà Vu is a lot harder than I could have imagined, since the first one came to me so easy. You can enter the Lucid Play Ground at any age regardless of how old you really are, you can see people in it at any age regardless of how old they really are, so how does age play out in this play ground is still a mystery to me. How to recognized people at ages you never knew them is also very difficult, sometimes you meet them over and over again and always at different ages, you must appear the same way to them. I believe that this Lucid Play Ground is a real place, I see it as an energy field that surrounds the planet, maybe its were people go when then dream, maybe even when they die, if our soul is real, it has to go somewhere when we die, and since I see dead people there and they seem as real as live people I see there I'd say its a place where your soul goes when we are there; its an out of body experience, a dream-scape; maybe the dream catchers the Indians make can keep us from wondering that far away.

    The key to using the Lucid Play Ground to an advantage is to remember what has happened in it after you wake up and then knowing how to use this information. I would suggest a Lucid Play Ground Diary, you would need to write in it just moments after waking up; may by keeping a tape recorder by your bed would be a good idea. How to remember the faces and ages of people and putting names to them will be something you have to work out as you go along. You need to remember the trigger points, which is normally what you think of as the Déjà Vu, even though its just the moment leading up to it. For one thing the event can be before or after the Déjà Vu and the Déjà Vu itself is just a seemingly normal moment in time when the event can be quit bizarre.

    Think about all your Déjà Vu experiences and write them down in as much detail as you can remember, then take them one by one and try to remember when you first had this thought, not the Double Déjà Vu; although this can lead you there if you are in Lucid Play Ground Land, but doing this awake can only bring you to that point in time and rarely in any detail, but its a start.

    There is another word I call it simply De-Moment. This is the Moment that will become the Déjà Vu in time. You can have this now and not have the Deja Vu for years, but if you can learn to recognize them now, you can know what you are suppose to do than. Keep in mind that the Déjà Vu experience is never the event itself, as in my example; playing Frisbee with my Sister had nothing to do with my neighbor killing his wife; as such you have to also find what I call De-Event, see a pattern here. De-Event is actually what has taken place during the Déjà Vu, but not the Déjà Vu itself, it is what De-Moment was preparing you for, but they had to find a trigger or should I call it De-Trigger to set off the Déjà Vu.

    This is just the ground work to explain what Double Déjà Vu is and how I think it works. I will go into more detail and tell you about some of my more vivid and detailed DDV adventures in a mini-series called “Double Déjà Vu”. For now I'd just like you to think this over and talk about it with friends and family and see if anyone you know has ever had this experience before. If you find someone who does, or you have, please write it down in as much detail as you can remember, if you would I can publish them at my web site http://doubledejavu.com . Til then sleep well and remember your dreams.